Terror Raids in Australia -thoughts

Hands Off Somalia

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i woke up to this on the news this morning after a long night of trying to get baz to bed…he’s now a 2 hour napper…there goes any beauty sleep

the authorities say al-shabaab is behind this…i was like AL-WHO?

was relieved to here this PM say:

“The threat of terrorism is alive and well. (But) our assessment of the terrorist threat in Australia is that it comes from a small number of individuals, who should in no way be taken as a wider reflection of any group within Australian society.”…

because if it was coming from the Liberals, in particularly ex-PM john WANKER/BOOFHEAD/BIGOT of a howard, he would’ve played the religion card and make it as if ALL MUSLIMS WERE TERROR SUSPECTS like he did during his pathetic reign…so there would be more upcoming cronulla-like riots brewing up or pauline hanson wanna-bes in the midst…

but why did they target an aussie army base known for his intelligence/counter-terrorism exercizes, still perplexes me? maybe to test how capable and competent our armed/security forces are with combatting any threat to terrorism perhaps? even if it means being a guinea pig for it? maybe its due to the alienation that these suspects have experience living in this country because their non-white and muslim that they needed to seek out revenge for it, thinking the australian government is behind this? but then again they’re the ones you mostly see lining up for centrelink payments? i always feel alienated despite being a citizen here but doesn’t mean i’d go to that extremes to fight it. you can’t fight hate with hate. also, since when did our aussie forces have any kind of involvement in somalia anyways? -apart from our nato membership and combating somalian pirates when going through the gulf of aden…either ways, i can’t think of a strong case for which these blokes would go ahead with such a mission…nor have they got a justified islamic reason to do so…

also…the PM said the reason why we need our forces still in afghanistan is because its a training ground for terrorists that needs to be stopped…so what about the ‘home grown’ones? the british couldn’t control it, neither could the russians. so whats makes the american allies think they can get a grip of it?

when i was at uni, one of my tutors was completing his phd in australian counter-terrorism…as part of the australian politics class i suggested maybe have the australian government put more funding into countering racism, intolerance, promoting a more muticultural australia instead of a monocultural one…because thats where the terrorism starts from…but i guess its easier and cheaper to bomb countries, displace more millions of people and when these people seek asylum only tell them to go back to the war-zone that you have created for them than to get your own citizens to be more tolerant and accepting of one another…

sure our parents came to this country to give us a better life and future, to escape the hardships of their motherland but at least they have their identity, they can proudly say who they are…but for their children its a bit difficult/different…they were born into a society that tries to shame, discriminated and strip them of who they are…how and where then does one feel belonged? 



Australia police foil suicide attack on army base
Reuters August 4, 2009, 10:10 pm

MELBOURNE (Reuters) – Australian police arrested four men they said were linked to a Somali militant group on Tuesday, accusing them of planning a suicide attack on an army base and raising fears the al Qaeda-linked rebels were seeking targets outside Africa.

The four were seized in dawn raids on 19 properties across Melbourne following a seven-month investigation involving several forces and Australia’s national security agency ASIO.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said the arrests showed “the threat of terrorism is alive and well.” But officials said Australia’s terrorism warning alert would remain at medium level, where it has been since 2003.

It is the latest high-profile terrorism case that the country’s police and intelligence agencies have uncovered.

Australia’s biggest terrorism trial ended in February when Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika was jailed for 15 years for leading a cell that planned to bomb a 2005 football match in Melbourne. Altogether, 12 people were jailed over the plot.

Australia has gradually tightened its anti-terrorism laws since the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States. It is believed to be a target mainly because it has more than 1,000 military personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Essentially, what these people are about is changing Western foreign policy,” said Clive Williams, terrorism analyst at Macquarie University. “In the case of the U.S., it is support for Israel in particular. In the case of Australia, it is things like our deployment to Afghanistan.”

The four detained men were aged between 22 and 26 and were all Australian citizens with Somali and Lebanese backgrounds. Police said they were linked to Somalia’s al Shabaab group.


Analysts say hardline Islamist al Shabaab, which is on the U.S. State Department’s terrorism list, has links with al Qaeda and has recently had success recruiting from the Somali diaspora and among other Muslim youths abroad.

Acting Australian Federal Police Commissioner Tony Negus told reporters the suspects had planned to storm a military base in suburban Sydney with automatic weapons.

“The men’s intention was to actually go into the army barracks and to kill as many soldiers as they could until they themselves were killed,” he said.

Police said they had worked with international agencies on the raids, but declined to say who tipped them off.

One man, Nayaf El Sayed, 25, was charged with conspiring to plan or prepare a terrorist act. He did not enter a plea or apply for bail, and he refused to stand for the magistrate before he was remanded in jail to reappear in court on October 26.

“He believes he should not stand for any man except God,” Sayed’s counsel told the hearing.

Police were granted extra time to question three others: Saney Aweys, Yacqub Khayre and Abdirahman Ahmed. A fifth man, in custody on other matters, was also being questioned and police have not ruled out more arrests.

Prosecutors told Melbourne Magistrate’s Court they had evidence some of the men had taken part in training in Somalia and at least one had engaged in frontline fighting in Somalia.

They said police had evidence including phone conversations, text messages and surveillance footage, including of one suspect outside suburban Sydney’s Holsworthy army base.

The court heard the men planned to seek a fatwa, or religious ruling, to support an attack on the base.

In Mogadishu, Somali President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed told reporters the turmoil in their chaotic nation was to blame.

“We are sorry if Somalis who fled their homes because of the insecurity then cause trouble in other countries,” he said.

Islamic leaders in Australia, worried about a backlash, called for calm on Tuesday, saying the overwhelming majority of Australia’s 340,000 Muslims condemned violence.

Australia has not suffered a peacetime attack on home soil since a bombing outside a Sydney hotel during a Commonwealth meeting in 1978 that killed three people. But 95 Australians have been killed in bomb attacks in Indonesia since 2002.

Under Australian anti-terror laws, authorities can detain a suspect for a prolonged period of time without charge, with court approval, while they investigate a case.



Australia still faces terror threats: PM
AAP August 4, 2009, 7:28 pm

An alleged plot by a radical Islamist group to attack a Sydney army barracks is a sober reminder that there is an “enduring threat” of terrorism in Australia, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says.

But he’s warned the arrest of four men of Somalian and Lebanese descent on Tuesday shouldn’t lead to people judging others on the basis of their ethnicity.

“Australians will be concerned to hear about arrests of this nature in our midst,” Mr Rudd told reporters in Cairns.

“The threat of terrorism is alive and well. (But) our assessment of the terrorist threat in Australia is that it comes from a small number of individuals, who should in no way be taken as a wider reflection of any group within Australian society.”

The prime minister said it was clear there was “an enduring threat from terrorism at home here in Australia as well as overseas”.

However, there was no need to upgrade the national counter-terrorism level from medium – as it’s been since the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.

The nation’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies were working hard to combat any threats, Mr Rudd said.

The radical Islamist group that allegedly planned to attack the Sydney military base has links to al-Qaeda.

Police say the little known al-Shabaab group was deep into planning what would have been the most elaborate attack on Australian soil.

Al-Shabaab is not listed as a terrorist group in Australia but has been in the US since February 2008.

Clive Williams, from Macquarie University’s Centre for Policing, Intelligence and Counter Terrorism, says members of the al-Shabaab group were likely to have been influenced by al-Qaeda’s global message to attack western governments that had been involved in the US-led war in Afghanistan.

“There are obviously young people among our Muslim community … who feel they can’t agree with our foreign policies and the best way of changing them is mounting attacks in Australia,” Prof Williams told AAP.

“The reason for targeting military bases was because of our military involvement in Afghanistan.”

But Mr Rudd dismissed any suggestion Australia should withdraw its troops from Afghanistan because their presence inspired hatred.

“The government of Australia’s view and (that of) the government of the United States, and our friends and allies, is that Afghanistan cannot be surrendered as a training base of unlimited potential for terrorists as it was prior to 2001,” the PM said.

Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull says discovering an alleged terror plot in Australia’s own backyard is “a very great concern”.

“The fact the alleged target was our own military personnel who defend our nation under our flag, wearing our uniform, is also very disturbing,” Mr Turnbull told reporters.

He joined Mr Rudd in calling for calm and tolerance in the community.

Liberal senator Russell Trood says Tuesday’s arrests underscore the need for Labor to release its terrorism white paper.

The Rudd government announced the white paper’s “upcoming release” in December, Senator Trood said, but it was yet to see the light of day.

“It is worrying to think that almost two years since it was elected, this government’s foreign policy is still premised on a national security architecture that is not designed to deal with such an enormous and complex problem,” he said in a statement.

~ by nursheikha on August 5, 2009.

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